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Old 10-01-2006, 07:48 PM   #1
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Need: Suggestions on setting up a smoking room (Basement)

Well Winter in NY is coming very soon. I moved into my new house about 2 months ago. This one has a 1/2 basement. I would like to take that basement and turn it into a comfortable (a light jacket)smoking area. It is currently unfinished and it will probably stay that way for a little longer. So what I need to know is there ant way (w/o spending the kids college fund) that I can smoke there and not get any of the smoke into the house.

I was thinking of creating a very simple negative air flow from the upstairs by throwing in a window fan to pull air out from the basement coupled with either a candle or air system of some sort. I figure if I am pulling warmish air from upstairs (plus the boiler) I could get a reasonable temp. If I smoke at the window it should pull most of the smoke out. It is mildly humid in there also, which I figure would amplify the odor. Do you think this has any chance of working? I would hate to cut a good stick short due to my fingertips freezing off.

Any suggestions would be great.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:11 PM   #2
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Hey Prof. just go over to Bloofys place he is in Fishkill also, some in his living room ! , , but I digress all you need is a small Ion generator, & a fan , less than a C note for a small one , or go with a smoke eater , Csonka makes one for about 2 C notes , seal up the stair wayat the bottom & put a fan at the top blowing down, crack open a window or the door to allow for the draft to suck out the smoke or just get your wife to allow you to smoke up satirs hahahaha, yea like that will work, , better off going to Bloofys place, or spend a few bucks frame it in & go with a full smoke room like I did , I have a total of 5K in the entire building , it is 10X12 with 6 windows & a sky light, an exaust fan & base board heat & in the summer there is A/C for the days that are to hot to sit outside & smoke , I started out with a Lawn building & insulated the walls & roof, added cheeep paneling & tossed in a rug, put up some window shades &went to good will for some cheep furniture & moved in !!!! , next time less windows & more outlets on the walls, got the CD player ,coffee warmer , heated chair pad, ( us old guys need the heat & message when we sit a long time ) TV,telephone , Intercom ,lights & exaust fan, it has 50 amp service & I use it all ! Enjoy, Vince
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:36 PM   #3
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Thanks Vince. I am sure in due time I will have a little shack in the backyard w/ the TV and a skylight. I will look into those Ion generators. I would love to enjoy a stick in the family room, but with kids it ain't happening. My wife smokes cigarettes, so I think if I can come up with a good solution she may want in on it. She hates the cold more than I.

I have chatted with Bloofy a few times. Very nice guy. Have not had the pleasure of meeting him in person and enjoying a smoke yet. I just bought this house about 15 miles (driving) NW of him. But I work not far from Fishkill.
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Old 10-02-2006, 07:10 PM   #4
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Old 10-02-2006, 07:46 PM   #5
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I'm planning on doing this soon as well. Though the room I'll be using is semi finished with finished walls and a drop ceiling. I'll be putting in a cheap air cleaner and an inline blower exaust fan.

Just how finished is the space you're talking about? Is it totally isolated as in a separate room with a door? Is it full concrete, or an english basement? If framed out, does it have any walls or is is just stud bays? If studs, is there any insulation or are the studs bare? Also, if an english basement and framed out, what type of framing is it; ie is each floor framed independantly or is it balloon framing where the studs go all the way to the roof?

Most people just put in some sort of exaust system and leave it at that, but an unfinished space could create some problems depending on the situation. With a little more info, you would get a much better answer.

That said, I don't think you want to be sucking heat from the rest of the house and out an open window simply from an energy cost standpoint. Plus I've also heard stories about people who have done this, and their house ends up drafty and cold.
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:34 PM   #6
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im sort of working on the same project. the only difference is that its a detatched garage. I need heate source that wont stink. and i need to insulate.

... on little to no cash.


I may have to only smoke at the local shop. Those guys are cool and all but i dont know if i want to see them THAT much.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:28 PM   #7
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I am thinking about doing the same thing to my basement at one point when I get a real job. I want it to be a game room/smoking room/ movie room. We will see how it all works out in time. My fiance doesnt want me to smoke up stairs either because of the furnature and what not. She even like sto smoke once and a while to.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:40 AM   #8
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Well, I have a question along these lines. I just finished my basement, not really a smoking room per say, but there is a billiard table, a bar and a 'lounge' area with a tv and some couches(sounds more glorious that it is). Being that winter is comming, I want to buy a smoke eater, but I don't want it to be loud, or the size of my truck. I have fairly low ceilings (7.5ft) but it's a pretty large space, around 18'x24'. I have been looking at the ones that sit on the floor, but in my own mind, i feel like that wouldn't work as good as a ceiling mount....maybe that's just me. Also, of course, I don't want to be spending like $2,500 on this item. If anyone has one that they like, or knows of a good one, or knows basically anything about this, because I obviouslly don't, please help me.
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:52 AM   #9
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maybe 4 or 5 of those sharper image air cleaners?
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There is a dealer here that sales something from a company called Healthmor.

It's an air cleaner that is suppose be the only one on the market that is an FDA medical device, I read a testimonial where Lance Armstrong said he carried one with him when he competed to clear allergens out of the air. It's called the Defender.

Supposedly it's better than the Hepa filter. I have always planned to have one of those when I have a smoke room. They go for like $800

Here is a link: http://www.filterqueen.com/air-filtration-systems.html

If you want I know this local store ships I will give you their number.
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:38 PM   #11
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The basement has a full concrete wall, a full sheetrocked wall, a 1/2 sheetrock and concrete wall and a half sheet rock and open w/ insulation wall. The ceiling is both open and sheetrocked. It has a steel door to the garage (nice seal) and a door at the top of the stair to the rest of the house.

This is the first winter in the new house, but I could imagine the boiler providing a fair amount of heat. So I think the heat loss from upstairs will be minimul for the 30-60 minutes I am smoking a stick. I also have 2 windows and if I crack the one open a 1/2 inch or so and then put in the window fan and smoke near the fan I could be okay. I guess it is going to be a work in progress till I get it right. I just want to start of close to being smoke free so I can continue on till completion, before the wife pulls the plug. Just wondering about candles and how well the smoke free ones smell and work. I am worried about the insulation getting saturated with smoke. We shall see.
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:43 AM   #12
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try frebreeze (sp?) after your smoke - it works to keep wall & furniture smelling fresh.

What I have done in my smoking room is install a wood stove &
have a blower fan drawing the air in above the dropped ceiling.
There are 4 vents over my couches that draw the smoke up & out.
The wood stove was the key for me.
I didn't want the fan sucking all the heat out, but the stove keeps the
room really warm & I don't notice the heat loss.
Usually I prefer to run the fan to remove some heat or it gets to hot.
As long as the door is shut the rest of the house stays smoke/smell free.
I much prefer the direct fan drawing the air outside than any filter system.
I own 2 Ionic breeze (from Sharper image)
they do remove the smell of the smoke, but do very little to remove the smoke. Keeping them on over night means my room smells fresh the next day.
Which to me doesn't matter as I light up everytime I go in there.
As long as the rest of the house don't smell it's all good!
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:36 AM   #13
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My smoking room is the garage with a space heater. My wife refuses to let me have a smoking room.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:08 AM   #14
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I mentioned the idea of a smoking area in the basement and a rough idea of how I was going to do it. She didn't have a negative reaction. This is positive
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