I haven't done this in at least 10 years, it sure makes for a much better cup o' joe!
Grind your own?
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You can't beat freshly ground coffee. I've always used a blade-type grinder. But I've heard there's no difference between the two. The most important part of fresh ground is to use fresh beans. I always refrigerate my beans after I buy them. If I know I won't use them for a while I throw them in the freezer.
Ken,
When I started work down here I brought in a bag of Starbucks for our auto drip. Boss liked it and said something. I told him if he wanted it done right we needed a 3 burner Bunn-O-Matic and a bean grinder. He told me to "Make it so". I got on that required plumbing so no one would have to fill the maker. Now, when we make our weekly re-stock of stuff it includes 5 bags of Starbuck Whole Bean which is kept in the freezer until needed.
Downside is I've been unofficially designated CBB (Coffee Brewing Bitch) which, as you know, is normal.
When I started work down here I brought in a bag of Starbucks for our auto drip. Boss liked it and said something. I told him if he wanted it done right we needed a 3 burner Bunn-O-Matic and a bean grinder. He told me to "Make it so". I got on that required plumbing so no one would have to fill the maker. Now, when we make our weekly re-stock of stuff it includes 5 bags of Starbuck Whole Bean which is kept in the freezer until needed.
Downside is I've been unofficially designated CBB (Coffee Brewing Bitch) which, as you know, is normal.
Greetings fellow coffee junkies.
A few weeks ago I saw a program on the food channel about coffee. Two points they mae differed from what I had always taken as gospel. One of these relates to an above post. That is: don't refrigerate the coffee (whole bean or ground). They noted that removing the coffee from the fridge causes moisture in the form of condensation on the surface of the bean. This moisture causes rapid degradation. They recommended storing it in an air-tight container.
The other point was that the darker the roast (e.g. french) has LESS cafeine than lighter roasts. It sorta cooks out.
What say you? :roll:
A few weeks ago I saw a program on the food channel about coffee. Two points they mae differed from what I had always taken as gospel. One of these relates to an above post. That is: don't refrigerate the coffee (whole bean or ground). They noted that removing the coffee from the fridge causes moisture in the form of condensation on the surface of the bean. This moisture causes rapid degradation. They recommended storing it in an air-tight container.
The other point was that the darker the roast (e.g. french) has LESS cafeine than lighter roasts. It sorta cooks out.
What say you? :roll:
From experience I tend to agree with a portion of the above... that being removing the coffee from the fridge caused condensation. When I ground "frozen" coffie it tends to "stick" to the sides of the grinder, "room temp" coffee grinded does not.
Now, IMO, the degradation caused by this moisture must be extreamly rapid as has to happen during the time the coffee is removed from the freezer, ground, put in the coffee maker and brewing started.... all of what?..... 1 minute?
Think about it! :roll:
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I think the age of the coffee has a lot to do with how strong it is too. My grandfather ran a coffee plantation in Angola years ago. During one of the normal tribal uprisings he posted armed guards around the perimeter of the plantation. He too would stand post. One evening he was exhausted and asked one of his assistants to get him some fresh coffee. By fresh he meant a new pot of coffee. The guy thought he meant freshly picked and roasted. Well, the guy came back smiling with coffee for my grandfather. After drinking two cups he said it felt like his heart was going to jump out of his chest, it was beating so hard. Needless to say, he had no problem staying alert that evening.
That's some story Fernando!!!
As for "real" as opposed to supermarket coffee, I've been drinking it since the summer of '91. Shortly after that a friend gave me a German hand grinder, which can be adjusted for the type of grind that you desire. I used a percolator for about a year, then discovered the French Press, now known as a Freedom Press in my house, just ask my cat.
I have been hand grinding, only that which I am about to drink, ever since the fall of '91, and also storing my coffee beans in the freezer. I have done much research and also spoken to many experienced gourmet coffee drinkers, coffee shop employees and managers about my storage, grinding and brewing methods. I keep my beans in the freezer, not refrigerator, and as the beans go down in the jar, I make sure I put them in a smaller jar. Since a pound of fresh whole bean coffee doesn't last more than ten to fourteen days, twenty max, in my house, I have never encountered any problem, and never been advised that it is really wrong to do what I do. Making sure that I have what's left in a jar that's only big enough to hold the beans that are left is a good way to keep the excess air from aging the coffee too soon. Coffee beans stored in a freezer can last for months and still taste great.
As for "real" as opposed to supermarket coffee, I've been drinking it since the summer of '91. Shortly after that a friend gave me a German hand grinder, which can be adjusted for the type of grind that you desire. I used a percolator for about a year, then discovered the French Press, now known as a Freedom Press in my house, just ask my cat.
I have been hand grinding, only that which I am about to drink, ever since the fall of '91, and also storing my coffee beans in the freezer. I have done much research and also spoken to many experienced gourmet coffee drinkers, coffee shop employees and managers about my storage, grinding and brewing methods. I keep my beans in the freezer, not refrigerator, and as the beans go down in the jar, I make sure I put them in a smaller jar. Since a pound of fresh whole bean coffee doesn't last more than ten to fourteen days, twenty max, in my house, I have never encountered any problem, and never been advised that it is really wrong to do what I do. Making sure that I have what's left in a jar that's only big enough to hold the beans that are left is a good way to keep the excess air from aging the coffee too soon. Coffee beans stored in a freezer can last for months and still taste great.
From the Gurus of the beans I have learned that coffee should be stored at room temp in an air tight container.
No fridge, no freezer.
Most people that roast there own brew the roasted coffee for one week after they have roasted the coffee.
When you fresh roast the beans need to rest for 24-36 hours to de-gas.
Then it's 1 week till the flavors start to degrade.
Not that it is "BAD" after a week, just not at the peak of flavor.
Grind only what you are going to brew.
And you to can be a coffee nut too!
CC
No fridge, no freezer.
Most people that roast there own brew the roasted coffee for one week after they have roasted the coffee.
When you fresh roast the beans need to rest for 24-36 hours to de-gas.
Then it's 1 week till the flavors start to degrade.
Not that it is "BAD" after a week, just not at the peak of flavor.
Grind only what you are going to brew.
And you to can be a coffee nut too!
CC
CastleCrest said
That is the story I have been getting around here as well. I too have been buying whole bean and grinding each morning what I need for a pot for many years. I tried a Froggy press once but it ran a second to my normal methods.
A pound of coffee beans lasts me only about 15 to 20 days, as my lady friends like to drink coffee in the evening here as well. Grind and brew..... makes me feel like new.....
That is the story I have been getting around here as well. I too have been buying whole bean and grinding each morning what I need for a pot for many years. I tried a Froggy press once but it ran a second to my normal methods.
A pound of coffee beans lasts me only about 15 to 20 days, as my lady friends like to drink coffee in the evening here as well. Grind and brew..... makes me feel like new.....
No freezer, no fridge ever, green or roasted.
Green beans are kept in burlap room temp.
Roasted glass jar room temp.
Green beans are kept in burlap room temp.
Roasted glass jar room temp.
Regarding roasted beans, any particular science behind keeping them at room temperature as opposed to the freezer?
Regarding Freezing
I asked Jerry and here was his answer:
"Not a good idea to freeze roasted coffee. The constant changes in temperature will wreak havoc on your coffee. The frozen surface moisture will melt and be absorbed back into the bean. When you put it back into the freezer and remove it again, you're just repeating the process.
However, a ONE-TIME freeze would seem to be ok as the coffee isn't subjected to repeated temperature changes. The best way to store roasted coffee is in an airtight container in a cool, dry, dark place."
I asked Jerry and here was his answer:
"Not a good idea to freeze roasted coffee. The constant changes in temperature will wreak havoc on your coffee. The frozen surface moisture will melt and be absorbed back into the bean. When you put it back into the freezer and remove it again, you're just repeating the process.
However, a ONE-TIME freeze would seem to be ok as the coffee isn't subjected to repeated temperature changes. The best way to store roasted coffee is in an airtight container in a cool, dry, dark place."
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That does make sense.
Bloof, no more coffee in the freezer! If there is any there now, remove it or face drinking a gallon of Sanka as punishment! :shock: :lol:
Bloof, no more coffee in the freezer! If there is any there now, remove it or face drinking a gallon of Sanka as punishment! :shock: :lol:
