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Old 01-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #1
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Arrow white house petition to legalize cuban cigars

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...igars/M6GFMtrX

Please help me get Cubans in your humidor. Take a minute and fallow the link to sign a petition to the White House.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #2
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Daviejoe, I'm not sure how that would work.

Is the petition ONLY referring to cigars, or to all consumables? Wouldn't make any sense to petition for only cigars to be legal but not Cuban rum or produce. I'm not going to click on the link, but I think a more sensible approach would be to petition for the decades old embargo to end. Get the embargo to end, then our humidors will be filled up with Habanos that are poor in quality because of the demand to fill up all the American humidors.

Not trying to be a smart ass but does that make any sense?


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Old 01-02-2013, 05:37 PM   #3
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Daviejoe, I'm not sure how that would work.

Is the petition ONLY referring to cigars, or to all consumables? Wouldn't make any sense to petition for only cigars to be legal but not Cuban rum or produce. I'm not going to click on the link, but I think a more sensible approach would be to petition for the decades old embargo to end. Get the embargo to end, then our humidors will be filled up with Habanos that are poor in quality because of the demand to fill up all the American humidors.

Not trying to be a smart ass but does that make any sense?


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One hurdle at a time kind sir, one hurdle at a time. Obama has agreed already that trade talks should begin in alternate items as well, but in my research, I have come to the conclusion that the embargo was to stay their cigar production in favor of Big American Tobacco companies. I would love for a petition to accompany mine for the full release of the embargo! Please start one! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov (only government agencies are allowed the .gov ending, its safe!) and anyone can start a petition, 25000 signatures needed to warrant a response from the White House.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:50 PM   #4
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Davie,

Again, I respect your passion. I think your request would hold more credibility had you gone to the new member section and posted an introduction first. Maybe tell us about your petition and why you're passionate about Habanos. We are a tight knit group here but we always welcome new people into the family. To be frank, your posts sound like....well, they sound like spam.


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Old 01-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #5
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petition.

I can respect a tight knit family, when you hover above a link, look in your bottom left corner and it will show the actual address to the link, you can also google the address i posted for the link and see that it is an official petition site made by the White House. It's a sight that has been in the news a lot lately. I heard about it when i saw Texas had a quarter of a million signers to secede from the USA in its entirety. I think its a great idea to have a petition sight that can promise a reply from the GoV. But regardless of if you want to sign or not, good looking out on behalf of your fellow forum readers! I'll see you all in the new members forum! Keep puffin them stogies!
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:21 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by DavieJoe View Post
I can respect a tight knit family, when you hover above a link, look in your bottom left corner and it will show the actual address to the link, you can also google the address i posted for the link and see that it is an official petition site made by the White House. It's a sight that has been in the news a lot lately. I heard about it when i saw Texas had a quarter of a million signers to secede from the USA in its entirety. I think its a great idea to have a petition sight that can promise a reply from the GoV. But regardless of if you want to sign or not, good looking out on behalf of your fellow forum readers! I'll see you all in the new members forum! Keep puffin them stogies!
Thanks DavieJoe. Welcome to the forum. Really a great group here. We are not a huge forum, but we have been steady over the years. This was my first cigar forum and where I learned about cigars.

Any Habanos in particular that you enjoy?


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Old 01-02-2013, 07:38 PM   #7
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habano

Ive never tried a Cuban, but i Loved the Pinolero! and my buddy at my local shop said they taste pretty close to them, gave me the aching to try one, but i dont want to break any laws there, so i figured ide go the long way around about it lol. I love the Maduro and DR Habano, the Perdomo Habano seams to be a great all around stogie so far, build body and smoke. More than anything, i wanted to sign up here to get suggestions from other stogieheads so i can broaden my horizon in my choices. Is there anything you can recomend for me? Im a tea drinker and love to smoke my stogies with a hot cup of Irish Black Tea. Thank you my man! good puffing!
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #8
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You know, some people say the Habanos are overrated. They may be. I think there are enough quality non Cuban cigars out there that a person could go without ever smoking a Habano. I have learned that the guys who bash Habanos are guys who don't have a source and have never smoked one before, or they are not ballsy enough to obtain them. A good friend of mine, he always says, " you know, 90% of Cuban cigars in America are fake". And I'm always like "really? How do you know, Mr. Expert?"

You mentioned the Perdomo Habano. Excellent cigar! I could easily make that my everyday cigar. As far as recommendations, I will always recommend La Flor Dominicanas for full cigars, and Illusiones for medium to full. Both are exceptional brands. Can't tell you a whole lot about light cigars except the La Flor D. makes a light bodied cigar that is awesome.


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Old 01-03-2013, 03:55 AM   #9
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I've had a few Cubans and I don't think they are any better than what we have now- but maybe a little different. One I did like was La Flor De Cano predilectos (still have some aluminum tubes). I bought and smoked mine in Cancun and wouldn't buy them here (tho I could). They were expensive, but I did get a deal on the La Flors which made me buy a bunch of them. Back then I usually brought a box (50) of Topstones to Cancun with me for my vacation smokes.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:00 AM   #10
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Cuban cigars are not overrated. Not by a longshot. Just my humble opinion - but there is nothing that I know of that isn't Cuban that could match a Montecristo Edmundo or a PSP2.

The only thing that I give to NC's over Cubans is construction and ease of purchasing.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:22 AM   #11
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The main difference would be the tobacco. Tobacco varies as to seed and then again as to where it is grown. Cuban grown tobacco may be as unique in flavor as Connecticut grown tobacco. Didn't pre-embargo Cubans have a CT wrapper ?
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:55 AM   #12
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I had heard that about the pre-embargo Cubans - I just don't know for sure. I have about 1/2 a dozen sitting in my humidor that I plan to smoke someday.

It's funny that they are always pushing these "Cuban seed" cigars at places - and they taste nothing like a real Cuban cigar.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:12 AM   #13
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I agree. A Cuban seed grown in Honduras tastes nothing like a Habano.


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Just doing some research, I found that the cuban cigar I liked was discontinued in 2002. What was even more surprising is that they were machine made !
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Guantanamera?

Those were were machine made and cellophane wrapped. They were also discontinued. I have several in my humi. I've never tried one.




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Old 02-05-2013, 06:24 PM   #16
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No, Flor de Cano in aluminum tubes.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:35 AM   #17
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Just doing some research, I found that the cuban cigar I liked was discontinued in 2002. What was even more surprising is that they were machine made !
Their Machine mades are much better than ours. Flor de Cano is decent, as well as Los Statos de Luxe (discontinued).

I've heard Guantanamera's are not very good. (although I love the song by Compay Segundo!)
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Guantanameras are a decent cigar. They smoke well, have decent flavors, and are quite inexpensive. When I first started buying them, you could get a five pack for about 12 dollars, and I smoked quite a few. Comparing that price to a Chateau Fuente Rothchild at about 20 dollars during the same time period, and you can see the difference. What is funny is that the price on the Cuban cigars basically doubled over the next 2 or 3 years, but the Dominican cigars only went up about 50 percent.
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