10 year old Evan Williams

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jlmarta

Joined May 2007
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Northern California
I'm new to using a forum for anything so if I goof up, please let me know. My question has to do with Evan Williams 1783 10 year old sour mash bourbon - - not to be confused with the 10 year old single barrel stuff.

I've been in e-mail contact with HeavenHill Distillery trying to locate a source for the 10 year old Evan Williams. Their marketing department has been courteous but somewhat stingy with information. All they would tell me is that it isn't available in California and they sent me a link where I could order a bottle - - from an outfit in New Jersey.

Does anyone know why it isn't available in California?

Does anyone know of a state closer than New Jersey that has it available? I've already checked Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado.

I'd appreciate any info anyone can pass along regarding this. My curiosity is way up there as to what the 10 year old stuff tastes like since the 7 year old is so good. The 10 year old must be better, right?

Thanks very much,
J. L. Marta
 
That's a bourbon that I got really cheap a while back from that place in New Jersey. I like it a lot. Really good for such inexpensive bourbon.

Ordering on line has really gotten quite convoluted, with many bowing out of shipping, at least to various states. Because so many state and local governments have made noise about free American citizens using the internet to order cigars, booze and other normally taxed products, and getting away without paying any taxes on such, some on line purveyors have been scared out of the market.

Technically, any citizen is supposed to report tobacco and booze purchases made on line to their local/state government, so that they can then pay the tax on their orders.

You may find the bourbon you're looking for at . . .

http://www.binnys.com

I have a little problem believing it isn't available in California, but I've just checked my three favorite web sites in that state and it isn't available. Unfortunately, I couldn't tell you why.
 
Thanks very much for your help. I've gone ahead and ordered a bottle from one of the two places I located in New Jersey but, I have to tell ya, the cost of shipping precludes me doing it again. One outfit wanted $21 and change for shipping & handling. The other was only $11.50 for S&H.

I can understand why the marketing person at the distillery didn't want to spend a lot of time with me....I mean, I'm talking in terms of a bottle or two and she's looking for sales in terms of cases or tens of cases at a time.

Still, it would be interesting to know why it isn't available in California.

Thanks again,
J. L. Marta
 
I know you're on a budget, but here's a tip. When you order on line, you never order just one, or even two bottles of anything, unless you're literally begging to be robbed. Unless you order three or more bottles in total, whether it's the same thing, or different items, if your order did not come out to at least three bottles, you are spending way too much per bottle for whatever you are getting. On line ordering is not for people who are only looking for one or two bottles of something. The shipping charges will not begin to spread out equitably until your order reaches the three bottle mark.
 
Excellent advice. Thanks very much. I hope not to have to do it very often but if and when I do again, I'll certainly follow your advice.

Of course, if the extra three years don't make a noticeable improvement I'll probably just stick with the 7 year old stuff.
It's better than my previous favorite, Jack Daniels, and has a higher proof for less money. An all-around winner.

Thanks again.
J. L. Marta
 
Sorry, I should have said something sooner, but I didn't want to sound like a know it all. Since you mentioned web shopping, I figured you might have already scoped out the vast differences in shipping charges, as the scale progresses. By the time you get to five bottles or more on an order, it hardly costs anything to keep adding bottles, but at three bottles, they still spread out equitably. Forget about one or two bottles, though.

If some rich guy/gal out there wants something really bad, no harm done ordering one bottle and the associated shipping charges. Most people on web sites like this though, have to think of everything in terms of cost effectiveness, since not too many really wealthy folks hang out on boards like this.
 
Yes JL it is a great value and not bad Bourbon. It is a big seller here in Va. Enjoy the 1783. Its good for allmost any thing you might want to do with Bourbon, except maybe relaxing after dinning on a medium rare filet with a Cuban RyJ Churchill, sipping from a crystal Bourbon glass. Then maybe you might want to step up to something with a bigger flavor profile.
 
What would you recommend for a bigger flavor profile?
 
Check my Top 25, especially any of the Top 15 or so, though some are discontinued products. There are also reviews here in the archives of various items I've tasted. Since I've been posting since February 8, 2004, that encompasses a lot of bourbons!!!
 
If we are trying to stay within a "reasonable" price range and to Bourbons that you can find, then there several good choises. The first to come to mind are the Beam Small Batch collection, Basil H., Knob Creek, Bakers and Bookers. Heaven Hill also bottles Henry McKenna at 10yrs and 100 proof. Do check Bloofings list but check the prices and availabilitys.
 
I'm aware of Knob Creek but haven't yet tried it. Some of the others you mention are new to me but I plan to look into them as time and funds permit. Thanks much.
 
Well, I received the 750ml of Evan Williams 1783 that I ordered from a source in New Jersey and am looking forward to tasting it. One of the first things I noticed, however, is a difference in the labelling. The photo of a bottle of 1783 that appears on the webpage for the source recommended to me by Heaven Hill clearly shows that the label states "10 Years Old". The label on the bottle I received from a different New Jersey source says instead, "No. 10 Brand" done in a way so that it resembles the first one I mentioned.

I'm wondering if I bought a pig-in-a-poke or if the "No. 10 Brand" label is on a bottle of legitimately 10 year old Evan Williams. Maybe VaGentleman could tell me what's on the bottles in his area. Or anyone else, for that matter. My curiosity is severely aroused now.

Thanks, and a good day to all.
 
That's very interesting. I'm wondering if the age on the 1783 isn't ten years old any more. There are a whole bunch of changes occurring in the American whiskey industry, as old labels are passed in to new hands, or old sources of whiskey are drying up, and certain statements cannot be made for certain lines of whiskey any more. Weller/Van Winkle is one label whose products are undergoing major changes right now. I'll have to check in to the discrepancy on your bottle. Just remember though, it's what your palate tells you that matters most.
 
I will check out the labels at the Bourbon store Monday. This Age, Proof, Label changing thing is very interesting..................
 
Thanks very much, VaGentleman. I should point out that the proof remains at 86 (unlike what Jack Daniels did to us) but the age is what I'm wondering about.
 
Ahhhhhhhh, jlmarta, you will soon learn about this, but we have another case of The Great Dumboni Strikes Again!!!

Indeed, I put in an order last weekend with Shopper's Vineyard, mostly to procure something for a friend's birthday. The order has been delayed, because I didn't file a change of address form with my bank, and there was a case of non-matching addresses with regard to a credit card transaction, blah, blah, Bloofy, blahhhhhhh, etc.

Anyway, what did I include in my order? None other than a bottle of the Evan Williams 1783 bourbon. Sooooooo, I'm soon going to see for myself indeed what goes on here, and will then have evidentiary documentation (the label) to get to the bottom of this barrel of bourbon.

I guess I kind of forgot I'd be looking at my own bottle soon enough. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, . . .















THUMP!!!
 
Oh, well. It's like I always say - - "some weeks have four or five Mondays in a row".

Ya can't win 'em all.

J. L. Marta
 
And they don't call me The Great Dumboni fer nuthin', pardner!!! I'll let you know what my bottle says when it comes in, and if necessary, will grill my Whiskey Sensei for additional information.
 
Shoppers vineyard is the source recommended to me by the marketing lady at Heaven Hill. I didn't order from them because of the exorbitant shipping & handling cost. Instead, I ordered from Wine chateau in Metuchen, New Jersey.

Their S&H was only $11.50 or so and that's where this 'funny' label came from.
 
I'll have to check them out, but it seems to me that SV would have had about the same shipping charges for one bottle. The order that I'm waiting for, a four bottle order, cost $17 for shipping, and I opted for the insurance, which was 80 cents extra.
 
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