Air Filtration

Spider66

Spider66

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Has anyone found a good air filtration or ventilation system that works well for home use? This smoking outside in the winter gets old fast. I would like to be able to smoke in my den, but do not want to smell up the place for family and friends.

What do you all use/do/suggest?
 
Garage or basement. I still get the business when I smoke in the basement but at least I can smoke. I don't have a garage to retreat to. The soke will build up in your house and your family will be able to smell it for a while.
 
i found some great smoke eater candles that do work really well i use them all the time.
 
What quag said. Just remember that if you get one that also produces ozone, make sure you run it after you've finished smoking.
Breathing in too much ozone can irritate the throat and lungs...and boy is it uncomfortable.
 
According to Czonka, you can run them all year long. But like Axe said, it can be irritating. Smells almost like bleach.
 
At the hotel we use an Ionizer. I bought it from Maintenance Warehouse. They cost between 100 and 500 bucks. Take the square footage of your room and buy the right size and you'll have no problems. They work great for us in the rooms. Also, buy some Fabreeze for your drapes, shades, couch cushions, etc. It will really help.. If you need more info let me know.
 
Jesse makes a great point, that Fabreeze is incredible on drapes and sofa cushions.
 
Ionic Breeze by Sharper Image. They have grown with their product, vastly improved over it's original design, although the original is great. I have one of the originals, and it's been doing a great job for four years. They also have great customer service. They are expensive, but are silent, use virtually no electricity (10 watts max), and if you buy two, the second is half price. They're worth it.
 
I'll post a pic of the system we bought for our office. It runs the gamut; ionic, UV light, charcoal filters, hepa filters, blah blah blah. Price was decent.
 
I had purchased a Csonka smoker cloaker. And that is all it is a "cloaker". if you are thinking of purchasing any ozone producing products, go to the EPA website and do some research. They have independent test results that might make you think twice about using ozone. They do nothing to clean active smoking, but will mask the smell afterward. So unless the other half is out for a while they won't help, the smoke will permeate the house. You can accomplish the same "masking" with candles and spray much cheaper. They even sell an ozone spray called Ozium, sold in auto stores. I took the Csonka back and purchased a hepa filter air cleaner that helps with the active smoke(smoke can still be smelled upstairs in the house) but cleans the air of contaminants. I am going to try a window exhaust fan next to see if I can re-direct most of the smoke outside. Hope this helps........
 
Muerte said:
I had purchased a Csonka smoker cloaker. And that is all it is a "cloaker". if you are thinking of purchasing any ozone producing products, go to the EPA website and do some research. They have independent test results that might make you think twice about using ozone. They do nothing to clean active smoking, but will mask the smell afterward. So unless the other half is out for a while they won't help, the smoke will permeate the house. You can accomplish the same "masking" with candles and spray much cheaper. They even sell an ozone spray called Ozium, sold in auto stores. I took the Csonka back and purchased a hepa filter air cleaner that helps with the active smoke(smoke can still be smelled upstairs in the house) but cleans the air of contaminants. I am going to try a window exhaust fan next to see if I can re-direct most of the smoke outside. Hope this helps........
Click to expand...

They recently redesigned the Ionic Breeze with a catalytic convertor to break up O3 and produce O2(pure oxygen) and a free radical
 
The Ionic Breeze works great for removing any odor.

but! IMHO

They do not eat the smoke out of the air.
I do think that left for a few hours the smell is gone, but if your wife
walks in while smoking the room will be filled with smoke.

I cut a hole through the wall and put a fan to suck the smoke out.
Problem there is it sucks out the heat as well.
I have a woodstove in my smoking room so lossing heat is not an issue.
Still better than going outside!
 
Thanks for all this input. A good way to get the "active" smoke and the lingering oder out of the house will mean the difference of smoking indoors or always keeping out of doors, so this is an important issue for me. I am thinking of installing one or two bathroom type exhaust fans in the office for active smoke, maybe vent it into the fireplace flue(it is a gas fireplace with a pipe, so the "flue" is mostly decorative anyway.) Then maybe getting an ionic beeze or similar for the ligering oder.

Has anyone tried the exhaust fan thing? Thinking ov putting the fan on the vent side and pull through the ducting, that way the noise will be less intrucive. Will have to see how hard of an install that will be.
 
I smoke outside in my car 99% of the time so I have no firsthand knowledge on what to do. But I can tell you what not to do and Capt will agree I'm sure. DO NOT MESS WITH YOUR FIREPLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carbon monoxide is a very dangerous thing and fiddling with the flu/chimney is not a good idea.

I would say pump as much air as you can into the room from other parts of the house via blower fans. Then put one exaust fan in. What this will or at least should do is create a pressure zone in your office from which most smoke and air should be forced out of via the exaust fan.

I do this in my car. You set the vents so they don't circulate and crack a window. All the smoke goes out the cracked window. Its Newton's law--every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For all air going in, an equal amount goes out.
 
Thanks for the input, Quag. Don't get me wrong about the fireplace though. I have no intention of tapping into an actual flue. I have one of those "direct vent" gas fireplaces and it simply has a pipe for a vent. This pipe runs up the side of the house, enclosed in aframed in "box" for eye appeal. My thinkning was to add a second pipe to the box to use with a ventilation system.

Good idea about the fans though, I fugured that if I set the fans to pull air out of my office rather than "push" air out, I would get more air volume. and by cracking a window in another part of the house, this would also pressurise the office. although I have heating and cooling issues to think about, the air I pull out has to be replaced from somewhere.
 
World's shortest Fairy tale

This little fairytale would have solved all your smoking problems



Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl
"Will you marry me?" The girl said, "NO!"
And the guy lived happily ever after and he went fishing, hunting, played golf, smoked cigars in the house, drank lots of beer and farted whenever he wanted.
THE END


sorry couldnt resist :lol:

Nick Stick
 
h4xx0r said:
Muerte said:
I had purchased a Csonka smoker cloaker. And that is all it is a "cloaker". if you are thinking of purchasing any ozone producing products, go to the EPA website and do some research. They have independent test results that might make you think twice about using ozone. They do nothing to clean active smoking, but will mask the smell afterward. So unless the other half is out for a while they won't help, the smoke will permeate the house. You can accomplish the same "masking" with candles and spray much cheaper. They even sell an ozone spray called Ozium, sold in auto stores. I took the Csonka back and purchased a hepa filter air cleaner that helps with the active smoke(smoke can still be smelled upstairs in the house) but cleans the air of contaminants. I am going to try a window exhaust fan next to see if I can re-direct most of the smoke outside. Hope this helps........
Click to expand...
They recently redesigned the Ionic Breeze with a catalytic convertor to break up O3 and produce O2(pure oxygen) and a free radical
Click to expand...


I was refering to the Csonka. As far as I know they don't manufacture the Ionic breeze and was under the impression that ionic air filters only produce a small amount of ozone in th process of attracting contaminants to the filter grid, unlike the Czonka which soley uses ozone to mask odors although the claim is it eats the contaminants.
 
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