Just one question about humidification

Joined Mar 2004
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Hi all,

So I've read posts and FAQs and everything else out there about humidors... I think I've almost got it all. But there's one last thing I don't understand.

I still don't understand how a humidor can maintain a constant RH without using something like a 50/50 PG solution.

I have an inexpensive humidor that I'm trying out and it says to either use just distilled water or use the 50/50.

I understand the logic behind the salt test and the PG solution - so that's why I just don't understand how you could ever maintain a constant RH with just plain water. It seems that without some other chemical (salt, PG, etc.) to aborb or release moisture - it's a total guessing game as to what the RH will be inside your little cedar-lined box.

Hope that question makes sense. I feel like if I just solved this last little mystery - everything would make sense!

thanks!
 
When you soak the plastic container with the holes in it and that foam thingy inside, and then put it back in your humidor it will reach its new level of humidity, say 73% in a couple of days. Then, if you live in the Northeast for example, and it's in the summer, and you keep your humidor in a non-air conditioned room, in about a month the humidity will go down to say, about 63%. This will happen because the cigars inside your humidor will soak up the water, and the foam inside the plastic thingy (humidifier) will get dry.

When that happens, you will then soak your humidifier (plastic thingy with foam thingy inside) until it's so saturated again that it will be barely above the water level in the bowl. Then it goes back in your humidor until the cigars soak up the water again, and it gets dry again. In the winter time in the Northeast it will need "recharging" much more frequently, and probably a supplemental "water dish" inside the humidor, or Climaxx beads, preferably the latter.

That's how you maintain a humidifier without using PG. It's the only way I've ever flown. Not everyone does. Some like PG. It's not PC to be either way. It's not wrong to be either way. It's just a matter of personal culture, which is one of the wonderful things about the hobby.
 
Bloofington,

Thanks for the info. But the one thing I still don't understand is how do you know what RH you're going to get if you don't use any solution?

If you just have plain old water evaporating inside of a box, aren't there so many factors to consider? Size of the box, the seal, number of cigars, amount of water, etc. It just seems like there's no controlling factor.

I just don't understand why plain water evaporating inside the box would create approximately 70% RH. Why not 30%? Why not 80%?

See what I mean? I know salt and PG control the RH because of a chemical reaction that absorbs or releases water vapor. So without that chemical reaction, what is controlling the RH???

Sorry if I'm not making myself clear...
 
Of course, size of the box and everything you said is a consideration. And you DON'T know what is going to happen. During the summer, two of my desk tops routinely sky into the mid to upper 70's before coming down to "normal" humidity levels. Two others are more difficult to get to 70%, which is actually more desirable for me. If you live down south (dow souf if'n youse a reel Suth'nuh) in the summer time I have actually heard stories about people having to keep their humidors OPEN in the summertime because it gets so humid way down yonder sumtahms.
 
i understand what your saying.... you need a hygrometer if you are not going to use any sort of solution. I would recommend using a hygrometer no matter what method you use. With the use of distilled water i adjust the humidifier by turning it so that the little holes are all the way open or barely open. then going back and forth with the hygrometer i can find a certain amount of opening that will keep the box at the RH i want. I don't use anything but climax beads or the tubs of perfect 70. But sometimes when i need extra power in a humidor i will charge up the humidifier.
 
I love the Cigar Oasis...if it drops below your desired RH, then it kicks on for you and won't stop until it reaches it again. It's awsome, since it has a big resevoir for water.
 
Agree about the Oasis electric humidifiers. I have 2 of them running in my cigar cabinet and IMO, they are the best.

I use the Savoy humidifiers with distilled water for both desktop humidors. I tweaked them a little to get the desired RH levels in the beginning, but after awhile you get to know your humidor and how many sticks it holds, and what the RH will be as a result.

cian
 
it's a bit of work to keep them in the 65-70 range here in the winter, but in the summer they settle in around 68 or so without ANY humidifiers. the closer to full the box is, the easier it is
 
I have three desk top's. Two hold about 3 boxes each, and one that holds one box. I keep them about 3/4ths full, and use a dish with about 1/3 cup of distilled water in each. Digital thermo-hygrometer in all three. Temperature varies from 68 in winter to 72 in summer. Humidity varies from 65 to 72. Humidity usually in the high end when a add water to dish. As volume of water drops so does humidity but never lower than 65 degrees.Cigars always are Ok to smoke.Very easy to maintain. Just distilled water. I've always been caucious of high temp & high humidsity.
Malone