nuke 'em!!!

Barcochris said:
DD were you been,, good to hear from you again.

Been here, been there.

Actually, we've been doing a lot of work up training for our deployment. I'll be doing a lot of that in the coming months.

Turns out that I'm the only "grunt" in my new unit. NO ONE has actual combat time. Pilots do but that's different than fighting on the ground. Once my Operations Officer found out that I have combat experience I've been tasked with training all non mechanic personnel for convoy ops, prisoner handling, hand to hand quick kills and building sweeps.
Should be interesting.
 
i guess that its an honor to train them but idk if it is congrats and train em good cuz there lookin after you lol be safe
 
How bad could the bugs be for your health anyway... We eat a pound of bugs every year anyway.. ( accidentally)
 
I'll bet the cherry on the end of a stogie will kill em' everytime too. I'm not up to trying the microwave thing either.
 
FYI..... If you have been smoking for any length of time you may have noticed a time or two when smoking that our cigar or cigarette may pop or snap, that is the little buggers popping from the heat of the cherry. In cigarettes it would be a cigarette beetle and in your cigars it would be the dreaded tabacco beetle. I have been in pest control for ten years and have some experience in dealing with this type of pest, thankfully not in my own stash. As has been posted numerous times on the forum your best protection is temp. control, there are some cigar manufacturing companys that are using a vaccum system to crush the beetles and their larva. Freezing will only kill the the adults and the larva will go into a state of hybernation and survive. You can try a heat method but the extreme heat will probably destroy you precious sticks as well as the beetles so do not attemp. You would have to get the temp up to around 145-165 degrees. I hope this info can help out like I said in the begining FYI.
 
I've heard of this before but it makes no sense to me. Sudden changes in temperature like the one provided by the switch from the microwave to the freezer can split the wrappers. I'd much rather just keep the temperature down, creating no chance for the larvae to hatch than running the risk of ruining my stash trying to protect it.
 
Yup, that's what I say Quag, plus the best fire in the world for really finishing them off, is the one that happens when you smoke the cigar!!! Like Quag said, just keep temp and humidity levels so far down within reason that you won't ever have that problem. Get your humidity down to 62-66 and you will sharply reduce those chances.
 
microvaves only heat up water. but being that the cigar has anywhere from 60%- 75% humidity.... wouldnt this just cook the leaves much like cooking spinach? how could CI post this.




... that was ci right .....
 
Microwaves are indeed tuned to act on water the most. A cigar is certainly not 65-70% water, that's the RH. The RH is the ratio of how much water the air contains to how much water it could hold at a given temperature (without condensate, or dew forming). We consider a cigar to be at a particular RH when it has come into equilibrium with air at that RH.

A cigar has undergone significant drying since it was a living organism. I'd be willing to bet that a beetle larva or egg contains more water and would therefore cook faster than the tobacco in your cigar. I personally think that the several minutes mentioned in the article is pretty excessive. Trying to create hotspots at the beetle eggs and larva would demand very intense power for as short a time as will get the job done.

On the other hand, I don't have the money to go around test nuking my precious smokes! If I were a manufacturer, I would certainly experiment with this. In my case, I don't know for sure that any of my cigars have live beetle eggs to run an experiment, and I don't think I'd be willing to sacrifice them at this point!

You would need at least a dozen known infested (with live eggs) cigars, half for nuking, half for control. Then you would nuke the test sticks for varying lengths of time and observe how much damage it did. Finally you would observe the smokes at 75%, 85* for six months or so. If the damage to the stick was negligible at a level of microwaving that eliminated the beetle problem, it might be worthwhile!

I would try this with my T******* sticks, but I don't know that they are infested. That and it's tough to say that one of those was "ruined" by nuking... :wink:

If anyone else has the resources to run the experiment, I'm sure we'd all love to hear the results!