I'm watching this show about presidents on the history channel. They are talking about General/President Grant. He was a cigar smoker. He always smelled like cigars and he smoked 20 cigars per day. I wonder what he was smoking. I never realized it , but he is holding a cigar in alot of pictures of him. Just thought it was interesting.
I saw something about Grant a few weeks ago and they said his wife hated cigar smoke and wouldn't allow him to smoke in the White House, so he would go over to the lobby of the Willard Hotel, which is right next door to the White House. People wanting to get a moment with him would assail him in the lobby and interrupt his cigar smoking, which greatly annoyed him. He was heard to say "If I could only get away from these damned Lobbyists...." and that is supposedly where the term originated. I just thought that was intersting.
Nothing worse than being interupted during a good cigar..well, maybe leprocy....maybe....
edited to add....hmmm...this could make a good sig line!
edited to add....hmmm...this could make a good sig line!
Big Paintbrush said:
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Big_Deel said:
Whowa, I don't know if I'd be braggin about that......please discribe..................in detail.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:RAVYN said:
On that note....who wants to be my AmBack...........oops, wrong thread!
That's obviously a fake. It's well known Monica Lewinsky cigars always come in plastic or metal tubes.
Now... how the heck did Grant get through 20 stogies a day? He'd have to be smoking constantly, and either burning small sticks or working really hard at them.
I seem to recall he was a drunk as well. Definately a far better general than president.
Now... how the heck did Grant get through 20 stogies a day? He'd have to be smoking constantly, and either burning small sticks or working really hard at them.
I seem to recall he was a drunk as well. Definately a far better general than president.
I was wondering about the 20 cigars a day too. But thats what they said?? I though 3 or 4 in a day was alot. What kind of cigars would he have been smoking??Any one have an idea?
jesse52 said:
yep 20 a day!
I wana find out what kind of stuff he was able to get at that time. Probably some sick imported cuban stock.
A far better general than president, zandor? Maybe, maybe not. Let's just not believe too much of what the revisionists put out there. It's all to easy too describe Grant as a cigar smoking drunk, but if you delve into history somewhat, the true picture of Grant comes out as something far more than a bumbling drunk.
As for that picture of Monica, it conjures up something a lot different than fear. I also got in on Monica-mania as it was dying out, and wound up with a bunch of Monica-related cigars. Some were actually really good, and I also have some Monica-related memorabilia as a result, including two hilarious t-shirts which get me a lot of attention.
As for that picture of Monica, it conjures up something a lot different than fear. I also got in on Monica-mania as it was dying out, and wound up with a bunch of Monica-related cigars. Some were actually really good, and I also have some Monica-related memorabilia as a result, including two hilarious t-shirts which get me a lot of attention.
"Few men in American history have ever been more closely associated with the cigar than the great celebrity of the late nineteenth century, Ulysses S. Grant, the eighteenth president. Famous first as the Union general who brought the Confederate Army to its knees, Grant was a two-term president almost always caricatured, illustrated, sculpted, or photographed with his beloved cigar. In fact, toward the end of the war, when Grant suffered a particularly severe bout of depression, he wrote that he was so unhappy that he was "eating neither breakfast nor dinner" and he had "not smoked a cigar."
Grant was said to smoke 20 cigars a day. His habit increased during the Civil War, after the Battle at Fort Donelson in Tennessee in mid-February 1862. As he later told General Horace Porter, "I had been a light smoker previous to the attack on Donelson .... In the accounts published in the papers, I was represented as smoking a cigar in the midst of the conflict; and many persons, thinking, no doubt, that tobacco was my chief solace, sent me boxes of the choicest brands .... As many as ten thousand were soon received. I gave away all I could get rid of, but having such a quantity on hand I naturally smoked more than I would have done under ordinary circumstances, and I have continued the habit ever since."
When the general decided to run for president, his relish for stogies was used as part of his campaign persona, and was even immortalized in the 1868 campaign song, "A Smokin' His Cigar." The Democrats tried to use Grant's cigar against him. One of their ditties had a verse running, "I smoke my weed and drink my gin, playing with the people's tin."
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA ... 17,00.html
Grant was said to smoke 20 cigars a day. His habit increased during the Civil War, after the Battle at Fort Donelson in Tennessee in mid-February 1862. As he later told General Horace Porter, "I had been a light smoker previous to the attack on Donelson .... In the accounts published in the papers, I was represented as smoking a cigar in the midst of the conflict; and many persons, thinking, no doubt, that tobacco was my chief solace, sent me boxes of the choicest brands .... As many as ten thousand were soon received. I gave away all I could get rid of, but having such a quantity on hand I naturally smoked more than I would have done under ordinary circumstances, and I have continued the habit ever since."
When the general decided to run for president, his relish for stogies was used as part of his campaign persona, and was even immortalized in the 1868 campaign song, "A Smokin' His Cigar." The Democrats tried to use Grant's cigar against him. One of their ditties had a verse running, "I smoke my weed and drink my gin, playing with the people's tin."
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA ... 17,00.html
Well he did die of throat cancer, so maybe 20 sticks a day wasn't so far off. Just a little tidbit, he is buried in Harlem.
My dad collects Civil War Action Figures. They are like the G.I Joe's from the old days. He has one of Grant who is holding a cigar....
I did think that was a nice feature to the action figure.....
I did think that was a nice feature to the action figure.....
