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kuzi16

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the last 3 cigars that i have had (Free Cuba Toro, La Aroma de Cuba Cetro, Punch after dinner maduro) have burned unevenly.
If it was just one (one cigar, one brand, one size, one wrapper) i wouldnt be posting and asking if anyone had any thoughts.
some of my thoughts are that i am not turning the cigars enough. Or could it be uneven humidification due to lack of rotation in the humidor? How often should they be rotated? I have been aiming for once a week. Could it have anything to do with the weather? (windy VS calm, hot VS. cool, yadda yadda yadda... )

any thoughts?
 
Overly humidified cigars can sometimes exhibit this tendency, which at this time of year, in your neck of the woods, mine and many others, particularly in the Northeast, is experienced annually. This is the time of year that when you open your humidor to do air exchange or just gaze and thank God, the gauge goes UP instead of down. Hazards of the weather.
 
I agree, too wet. Your once a week rotation is more ambitious than me though. I've never specifically gone and rotated my cigars, though they do change positions after I've rifled around in there for a cigar. :lol:
 
Welllll, too humid greatly increases the chance of beetles, and also creates cracking conditions sometimes in cigars. I actually recommend no more than 62-66% humidity levels, because cigars actually burn better when a little dry. Cigars can also recover from periods of dryness just fine. Too much humidity can not only damage cigars, but ruin an entire collection if beetles hatch. That's why there is a thread here somewhere, actually many discussions, but one thread devoted to cooled humidors, where excess humidity is never a problem.
 
True true....I was speaking in terms of taste of the cigar....in my opinion the taste of a dried out cigar is NASTY. I agree for storage to much humidity is no good.
 
Yes. If someone has let their humidor go without maintaining it for a while, and it gets down to 50% or thereabouts, unless the cigar is brought back, it probably won't taste right. I however, have experienced aging cigars for long periods at around 60% and they tasted just fine. Cigar Aficionado had an article many years ago, about cigar storage by the English. The guy said that without knowing exactly what the humidity level was, he did know that once upon a time the English stored their cigars at extremely low levels. It sounded as though he was implying 55-60%.
 
I store mine at 62-64 and never notice any foul taste. An overhumidified cigar on the other hand tasts acidic and chemically.
 
I have three zones in my humidor. The top two shelves are 62%, the middle three are at 64% and the bottom 3 shelves are at 68-70%, including the one aging shelf. I keep certain cigars at certain rh levels according to how they smoke.
 
I have humi beads and the humidor is at EXACTLY 65% at all times. Ive never seen the RH deviate since the beads went in. I do have to smoke outside and it has been very humid out here in ohio but would that make that much of a difference?
 
As always everyone has touched on everything I would say. The only input I have is my rotation schedule.

until I get in the house and get my cabinet humidor, I have several desktop humi's as well as my coolerdor. I try to ratate my inventory every month taking anything that is at the bottom of the humidor and place it on the top as well as draw an imaginary line down the center of the humidor and move anything that was on the left dies to the right side and so on. I guess I take a tire rotation approach to my cigar rotation.

I have found that if there are any drier spots in my humidor that a cigar will not reside in it for more then a month and if there is a wetter spot then those sticks will help the drier spots out when rotated out into that area.

RH stays pretty firmly between 62 and 65 and I haven't had a smoke canoe or have taste/burn issues unless it had to do with the cigar itself.

hope that helps kuzi, weekly rotation IMHO is a bit much since it takes weeks for a cigar to acclimate to a specific climate change and by changing it weekly, the cigar may not ever truely acclimate if that makes sense? It would obviously acclimate to the overall conditions in your humidor, but not as well if you left them allone for a month or more.

My 2 cents :lol:
 
Capt has boiled this down to a fine science, and no doubt his dog was in charge of that project. Different cigars, depending on the tobacco used, do smoke differently, so having a tiered system of humidification, if you have the facilities, is a wonderful idea. By the way, Capt's black lab will be starring on Animal Planet in a new installment of their most extreme series, entitled, . . .

Great Brains of Dogdom.

Hey, two Masters, and a doctoral thesis in process.

Lemmehearyagiveitupforthedawgsinthehouse.
 
Just as a side note as well, being able to break the RH down by type of cigar is a great thing, but depending on depth of stacking for the cigars, the bottom of the pile will always be at a different RH then the cigars on top, so the rotation of stock still is a necessary evil to maitain consistent humidity of all the stock....I think?...LOL
 
maybe you are right.... i should not rotate as much and see how that goes


thanks guys for all tyour help, thoughts and ideas.
 
Bloofington said:
Capt has boiled this down to a fine science, and no doubt his dog was in charge of that project. Different cigars, depending on the tobacco used, do smoke differently, so having a tiered system of humidification, if you have the facilities, is a wonderful idea. By the way, Capt's black lab will be starring on Animal Planet in a new installment of their most extreme series, entitled, . . .

Great Brains of Dogdom.

Hey, two Masters, and a doctoral thesis in process.

Lemmehearyagiveitupforthedawgsinthehouse.
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BTW Bloof, I got some good (new) stories to tell ya about him.

Kuzi, IMHO, all of the cigars you named burn terrible anyway, except for maybe the Punch. I smoked a LADC a couple nights ago (64%) and it burned terrible, and had a terrible draw.
 
Well then Double, we'll need to take EXTRA special care to make sure that that doesn't happen.
I'd bet we've all had a beetle or two pop up in the humi. I'm in Jersey, and right now, it's a damn sticky, humid, hot, nasty, mess! With the A/C on by big desktop is just under 79 degrees....
%^&*(*@#$%&(()), know what I mean? Beetle zone!
 
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