what a crappy day

Wolfdaddy · May 24, 2005

I think Monday and Tuesday have gotten mixed up somehow...Yesterday was fantastic, but I had an all around crappy day today. I dunno. Stupid crap at work. Last Tuesday sucked too. Let's just say that there was screaming, I got pushed through a friggin chair when I told the screamer to stop screaming, he took the phone out of my girlfriend's hand and threw it across the room when she threatened to call the cops, he threw a hammer at the wall outside, put a hole in the wall, and all of that was in front of a sixteen month old child.

Anyway, today I figured I'd come home and have a nice Diploma to ease my mind a little bit, but no...I seem to have bad luck with Diplomas...I've only got three under my belt, but two of those three simply refused to burn right. I had one a week or so ago and it tunneled a bit, but I managed to get through it without too much trouble. Today I had one and it simply refused to stay lit at ALL. When I DID have it lit, it tunneled. I'm thoroughly confused, because most of the other cigars I've had in my humidor burned fine, so I assume my humidity is ok, but I dunno. Am I doing something wrong or what? I've been using water pillows for my humidification, and I thought they would be ok, and they have been for the most part. I just can't seem to enjoy any Diplomas. Is there something different about them as far as humidity needs or what?

I'm kinda mad right now, in case you didn't notice. heh.

axegod75 · May 24, 2005

Sorry to hear you had a bad day, and that your Diploma didn't make it any better. I keep my Diplomas and Opus at a lower humidity (say around 63%) due to the tougher wrapper leaf. If that's not an option for you, just take one out of the humidor a couple hours before you smoke it and you should have a better experience.

Wolfdaddy · May 24, 2005

perhaps it's time for me to invest in another humidor. the one I have now is just a small one...20-25 sticks.

bildo792 · May 24, 2005

i also have to let my diplomas sit for a long time after shipping. they are super picky. i agree they might need to be at a lower humidity.

Macallan · May 25, 2005

Smoka needs to chime in here. Diplomas are a high maintnance smoke. He mentioned someting before about burn issues related specifically to diplomas.

cigarsmoka · May 25, 2005

The Diplomas can be tricky and they are very picky. The Diploma wrapper's are Sungrown....Which means they are left to the elements. As opposed to the Shade Grown wrappers. There are pretty big differences between the two...

The shade grown plants are tied up, so they don't have to use much energy while growing, giving them fairly weak roots. Also the Flowers are left on so most of the energy goes into the photosynthesis process, and not into the leaves. Shade grown wrappers are thin, therefore burn great.

Now Sun grown wrappers, are left to the wind, sun, rain....and the flowers are picked off, leaving all the energy and nutrients to the leaves, making them thick and hearty. Which is why they don't burn as easily as the shade grown.

I believe Sungrown wrappers are more flavorful than most Shadegrowns, but that's just me.

Christian Eiora of Camacho said, "you have to work for it man, but your working for flavor."

I think after the Diplomas sit a while at a constant RH, they burn great, I would also try smoking them a little slower, that could help as well too.

Just my 2Cents! :roll:

bildo792 · May 25, 2005

well put and a great explination of sun vs shade grown.

FreedomGuns · May 25, 2005

I tried to let the Diploma I took from the pass rest...alas I could wait no longer. The light and flavor did not disappoint. The burn and draw was good. I smoked it slow and careful...maybe too slow. During the last third it went out 3 times, my repeated relighting may have contributed to a mediocre and slightly unpleasant finish. I will definately try some more of these. Although everyone seems to be in agreement that the natural is the way to go, I would like to try a maduro too.

cbs2817 · May 25, 2005

My local shop currently only carries the maduro, it's a good smoke but I actually prefer the Corojo naturals to the Diploma maduros, especially if price is a factor. Hell, I even like the Corojos with a natural wrapper better than the Liberty Ammendment XII! I think that the Corojo naturals have more character, a hot-pepper like spice that I don't really notice in any other cigar. I am eagerly awaiting to get a chance at the Diploma natural, which I think will probably become a quick favorite.

I've also never noticed many burn problems with Diploma maduros, no tunelling, only minor unevenness that was easily corrected.

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