Brenda said:
Brenda,
Just to address a question originally asked in this thread, in regards to aging cigars. Aging of cigars is a process of years, not weeks or months. That is a common misunderstanding with people that want to discuss or consider the aging of cigars. That said...there are a lot of Cubans out there that are considered pretty good "young", one of those being the PSD#4, which is pretty hard to beat, and a good representation of cuban cigars.
cooksnj said:
In Aruba (& on Cruise ships) all the Cuban cigars are FAKE!
No if's and's or But's about it!
Don't kid yourself if you think you smoked the real thing!
I'd say that even more because you didn't like them.
Trust me I have heard all the arguments - they are legal there
bla bla bla bla bla!
Unless you were at an LCDH they were fake -
Personally I think unless somone smokes only Cubans for 1 month
they will never understand what it is all about.
After 1 month something happens the pallet (sp) clears then go back to smoking NC's and see what happens!
As for aging!
Most every cigar is better with age - but unless you got mad cigars
to have lay around smoke what you got!
1 thing about Cubans you can buy aged cigars - you will pay more,
but they are worth it!
They do not need to be aged and unless you have smoked cigars long enough to develope your pallet (sp) your wasting your time!
To address CC's question, yes I believe that cigars rolled with aged tobacco still require post rolling aging for sure. I think 90 days is the minimum a factory should let them sit. Then I think another 90 days after that does the trick. Then when it gets to my humidor, another 15 - 30 to make sure they settle down from the move. This is if I want to smoke them "right away". If there is any aging to be done I will let them sit for a minimum of 12 months (someetimes I cheat and pick at the box a bit over the first year just to see how they are coming along).
Thanks for all the great info. I'm gonna do what cigarsmoka said. I'll get a box and smoke them at different periods (I have a cigar journal that will come in handy.)
I know aging will be tough. Life is too short and I get impatient.
I know aging will be tough. Life is too short and I get impatient.
Brenda said:
Before I learned to be patient with the aging of my cigars, I would just buy so much that by the time I got to a box it had some age on it. Now I've learned to be patient because I'm not gonna buy another cabinet...yet :wink:
cuban vs. non-cuban
aged vs. young
these two topics will be debated forever. it is true unfortunately that there are so many people in the US who have smoked cigars that they thought were Cuban. how many more people have bought cigars in the Carribean and on cruise ships who had nothing more than poorly manufactured cigars that were sold to eager Americans?
taste is subjective. buy some cigars, smoke them. if you like them, get some more. if you don't like them try something else. this is one of the best things about cigars. if you get a box of something smoke a few right off the bat and make sure you save a few that can age and check to see how good they are after some time.
there is no answer for some quesitons.
aged vs. young
these two topics will be debated forever. it is true unfortunately that there are so many people in the US who have smoked cigars that they thought were Cuban. how many more people have bought cigars in the Carribean and on cruise ships who had nothing more than poorly manufactured cigars that were sold to eager Americans?
taste is subjective. buy some cigars, smoke them. if you like them, get some more. if you don't like them try something else. this is one of the best things about cigars. if you get a box of something smoke a few right off the bat and make sure you save a few that can age and check to see how good they are after some time.
there is no answer for some quesitons.
I smoked a Montecristo when I was in San Jose, Costa Rica 14 months ago- it was pure heaven! They're dirt chep there, too. I've also seen them in Mexico.
Well, everybody else has put thier two cents worth into this thread so here goes.
I spend a good bit of time "on the road" as part of my profession/job. I have and will continue to purchase Cuban cigars whever I go. It doesn't take an expert to determine if the "Cuban" cigar you are about to purchase is "Real".
There are NO big bargens on real cuban cigars. If the price seems to good to be true, then it is.
A real quick look at the cigar should show a very high quality of construction. If it looks like a 4yr old rolled it out back in the alley, they probability did.
I have purchased in many,many places around the world. Just because the shop you are in is not a LCH does not mean they do not sell real Cuban cigars.
I have purchased real cuban cigars in Mexico, Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, Greese, Croatia, Italy, Spain, Gibralter, France, Germany, England, Irland, Canada, Bahamas, ST Maarten, St Johns BVI, Japan, Korea and will continue to do so God willing.
So go for it. It does require some time to develop a tase for cuban cigars. Look at it this way, If Bloofington can tell the difference then there is hope for the rest of us.
Enjoy!!1
I spend a good bit of time "on the road" as part of my profession/job. I have and will continue to purchase Cuban cigars whever I go. It doesn't take an expert to determine if the "Cuban" cigar you are about to purchase is "Real".
There are NO big bargens on real cuban cigars. If the price seems to good to be true, then it is.
A real quick look at the cigar should show a very high quality of construction. If it looks like a 4yr old rolled it out back in the alley, they probability did.
I have purchased in many,many places around the world. Just because the shop you are in is not a LCH does not mean they do not sell real Cuban cigars.
I have purchased real cuban cigars in Mexico, Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, Greese, Croatia, Italy, Spain, Gibralter, France, Germany, England, Irland, Canada, Bahamas, ST Maarten, St Johns BVI, Japan, Korea and will continue to do so God willing.
So go for it. It does require some time to develop a tase for cuban cigars. Look at it this way, If Bloofington can tell the difference then there is hope for the rest of us.
Enjoy!!1
Since originally posting the question of Cubans vs NC's, I have purchased a sampler, and they have been resting in my humi since.
I thought the sampler was the best way for me to experience the products from down south.
Well I broke one out New Years Day for a try, it was a
'El Rey del Mundo Choix Supreme' and I have to say it was mighty fine. Smooth burning and full of subtle flavors so good I smoked it as far as it would go.
All I can say is go for it, you will not be dissapointed.
I thought the sampler was the best way for me to experience the products from down south.
Well I broke one out New Years Day for a try, it was a
'El Rey del Mundo Choix Supreme' and I have to say it was mighty fine. Smooth burning and full of subtle flavors so good I smoked it as far as it would go.
All I can say is go for it, you will not be dissapointed.
anyone have any experience with a Guantanamera Cristale ?? (not sure if I got spelling right) might get one hypothetically of course since we dont want to break law
I thought the point of this thread was to discuss the rate at which Cubans age as compared to Americans! :lol: :lol:
Age Cuban cigars? Yeah, they age long enough for me to grab one and light it! :wink:
Age Cuban cigars? Yeah, they age long enough for me to grab one and light it! :wink:
dinoa2 said:
I've had those. They're machine rolled so don't expect perfection. Very smooth and mild but very loose once they start burning so it goes fast. They're pretty popular in Iraq right now among the Marines out there because they're so cheap.
If you've never had one and you're into mild smokes, go ahead and at least try one.
DevilDog723 said:
thanks I thought they were machine made and they will be a present from family so I will enjoy and say I have had one from that mythical island to the south
dinoa2 said:
There are A LOT better to try from the land down under! (And I ain't talking about Australia!)