Its now Final

Joined Oct 2005
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Lost in translation
I finally have nothing more to do with the house at 4 David St. It has been sold and I have received my final payment from it. It was not anywhere near what I thought I would get and I have built up a little bit of debt while getting into the new house and paying the other mortgage as well. I was able to knock off some debt, but I still have a little way to go.

The reason I am also sharing this with you is to share an experience that has put a large strain on my personal relationships with two people that are very close to me; my wife and my mother. I originally bought the house at 4 David St. under my mom's name since she could get a better interest rate than me. She even told me she would put some money into it to help get the payments down.

What ended up happening is my mom did not share all of the financial information with me and just asked me for the monthly mortgage payment. This fact drove my wife up a wall. Add five years to the mix and a number of improvements to the house (some out of my pocket and some out of my mom's) and the drop in value to what was originally assesed as the sale price and we really don't know what was paid out. My mom gave me a check for what was to be my cut of the proceeds of the sale of the house and we really don't know what happened.

My wife is upset as she thinks that my mom tried to make a profit on us. My mom did not fully explain what has been paid out in a sufficient way and I am not sure has happened; but she is upset with me because I questioned her on the final settlement of the proceeds of the sale. I am in the middle of a fight with my mom and wife and I do not see this ever being reconciled as my mom will never tell my wife directly how the money was spent. My wife will never talk to my mom agian and is extremely upset with the debt we have to pay off.

So the moral of the story is; never go into business with family without a contract. Treat it like a business deal and write everything out on what will happen. If possible, just avoid it. The cost of family will be much greater in the long run. Having a happy family is more important.

good luck and God bless.

-Dave
 
Sorry to hear that Dave,

Family/Friends and business just do not mix. I do have a few ventures with family, but our induvidual ownership is very clear. I just recently lost a buddy just because I did not use him as a realator (his problem, not mine), and this was after explaining to him I did not want our freindship to suffer over business. I hope all works out for you!!!
 
I cant tell you how many people end up putting their mortgages under family members names for the same reason. Then how many loans I get from people trying to do whatever they can to get their name off of someone else's mortgage. So I understand where you're coming from.

Very good advice you're giving. Never do business with friends and family. Never sign on someone's mortgage or have someone sign on yours. You never know how it will turn out so it's not worth the risk.
 
Ditto - bought a mobile home through a sister in law, turned out to be the Wicked Witch of the North. Bad juju, won't ever do it again.
 
Crimthann said:
Never sign on someone's mortgage or have someone sign on yours. You never know how it will turn out so it's not worth the risk.

UNLESS - You got no problem hiding the body!

I didn't (& should of) - ended up paying a lot of money for what was always mine.
 
CastleCrest said:
UNLESS - You got no problem hiding the body!

Haha so true. I just had a client that I was unable to help refinance a property that he signed on for his sister. The sister basically just stopped paying the mortgage and because of that his credit is all screwed up. On top of that they now cant sell the property because they owe more than it's worth, so he'll be stuck with the foreclosure on his credit soon. Best case scenario a short sale. Fairly confident he's not a big fan of his sister right now.
 
I don't care about the money as much as the problem I now have of trying to be inbetween my mom and my wife. I am my mom's only child and she wants to see her grandchildren all the time, and my wife always wants one day for the family to be together, just us and the kids. So now I will be puttign up with this fight for a long time. It costs too much in terms of personal hardships I have endured and will endure in the future.
Waht am I supposed to do for holidays, celebrations, and other family gatherings. My wife will never again go to my mom's house and I don't know if my mom will ever be invited over mine. How am I supposed to live like that. It is a huge burden to carry and I am just starting to feel the weight.
 
I have to say, I've always worked in the family business and we've never had a problem. My father and uncle are partners and my brother and I have worked there all our lives. Even within the last few years my brother and i started another business on the side doing real estate investments and whatnot, and none of us have really ever had any issues. I'm not going to lie, there are times that everyone yells at each other but in the grand scheme of things, I'd almost always rather deal with family.