So yesterday I got a griffens 500. I lit it up and smoked it, and the damn thing was burning black. The ash was completly black, and the edge of the wrapper burned black... So what caused this. I have never seen a cigar burn black like this. The cigar was pretty good, it wasn't worth its price though imo.
The color of the ash is largely dependent on the nutrients in the soil where the tobacco was grown. A common misconception is that the color of the ash indicates quality. This is false. In truth the color of the ash is really only indicitive of the region the tobacco was grown in. I am not a huge fan of the griffins either but must say I love the XX and the XXI limited editions they come out with each year.
Thank God Macallan chimed in with something, because the silence was deafening. In truth, I personally was thinking of posting that, but it might not really explain black ash. I know that the growers' adding magnesium to the soil explains white ash, which is supposed to be "highly coveted," but I wasn't sure about black ash, except that it sounds like a natural phenomenon to me. Can't imagine anyone wanting pure black ash to be the by product of a cigar. I doubt therefore, that it is because of something added to the soil. Thanks Macallan.
Yeah, absolutely, and it took me doing the "internet thing" with the right crowd to find out about the "white ash" thing, too. Turns out the "white ash" is nothing more than cosmetic surgery. Heyyyy, no wonder those 51 year old Hollywood/rock star chicks look so effable, well, same thing with the "white ash."
I was miseducated for the first two or three years of my cigar smoking experience by the catalog from "the 'T' word." They push the idea that the white ash is "highly coveted." Turns out that "highly coveted" crap got back to the growers, or perhaps they figured out FIRST that "white ash" would be highly coveted, because it's so attractive. Either way, gullible Americans, spurred on by "The Cigar Boom" of the 1992-97 period came to view the "white ash" as "highly coveted."
Pure, 100%, uncut Brahma Bullcrap. A white ash means they threw a lot of magnesium into the soil to make you go ooooohhhhhh!!!!!
As for black ash, I've never heard about that. I'd like to know more about that cigar, because I first started smoking The Griffins back in about '97, the one with the light Connecticut shade wrapper, and always loved them. I forget the name they gave the size, but it was 7 1/2 x 50.
This sounds like it might be one of the different releases of The Griffins line, which is in fact, put out by Davidoff.
Last, but not least, since black is my favorite color, I'd love a cigar with a pure black ash. It's been years since I've had The Griffin's, maybe it's time to . . .
taste it again, for the very first time.
I was miseducated for the first two or three years of my cigar smoking experience by the catalog from "the 'T' word." They push the idea that the white ash is "highly coveted." Turns out that "highly coveted" crap got back to the growers, or perhaps they figured out FIRST that "white ash" would be highly coveted, because it's so attractive. Either way, gullible Americans, spurred on by "The Cigar Boom" of the 1992-97 period came to view the "white ash" as "highly coveted."
Pure, 100%, uncut Brahma Bullcrap. A white ash means they threw a lot of magnesium into the soil to make you go ooooohhhhhh!!!!!
As for black ash, I've never heard about that. I'd like to know more about that cigar, because I first started smoking The Griffins back in about '97, the one with the light Connecticut shade wrapper, and always loved them. I forget the name they gave the size, but it was 7 1/2 x 50.
This sounds like it might be one of the different releases of The Griffins line, which is in fact, put out by Davidoff.
Last, but not least, since black is my favorite color, I'd love a cigar with a pure black ash. It's been years since I've had The Griffin's, maybe it's time to . . .
taste it again, for the very first time.
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I got another of the 500's from the same box, so tomorrow ill light it up. If the giffens burns the same way Ill take a picture to show you...
I have not seen a single cigar burn that way. It really was all black...
Glad to learn about the whole white ash thing, I thought like probably many others, that white ash was the sign of high quality.
I got another of the 500's from the same box, so tomorrow ill light it up. If the giffens burns the same way Ill take a picture to show you...
I have not seen a single cigar burn that way. It really was all black...
Glad to learn about the whole white ash thing, I thought like probably many others, that white ash was the sign of high quality.
By the way, for the HARDEST core cigar discussions, y'all kin trah . . .
http://www.cigarwise.com.
You will find TheRuffBoyzGang there, Maduro Mistress, and a host of others. Like Tonya Harding and me, they DO have ruff edges, but HUGE hearts, and they're all decent people. They have ALL the answers to anything you won't find here. And I say that will all due respect to the fine folks present, especially from http://www.cigar.com. :thumbsup:
By the way, speaking of cigar.com, since I've only had that special cigar they sent me for about two weeks, it's still going to be the NFL football season of 2006 before I smoke it.
That cigar looks DANGEROUS.
mg: mg: :giveup: :flush:
http://www.cigarwise.com.
You will find TheRuffBoyzGang there, Maduro Mistress, and a host of others. Like Tonya Harding and me, they DO have ruff edges, but HUGE hearts, and they're all decent people. They have ALL the answers to anything you won't find here. And I say that will all due respect to the fine folks present, especially from http://www.cigar.com. :thumbsup:
By the way, speaking of cigar.com, since I've only had that special cigar they sent me for about two weeks, it's still going to be the NFL football season of 2006 before I smoke it.
That cigar looks DANGEROUS.
mg: mg: :giveup: :flush:I don't know Bloofy, I like a nice white assh on a dark brown madruo. I haven't had a cigar with a really black ash. If fits not white its kind of gray.
I have heard a white ash has to do with the amount of
magnezium (sp)
Most Cuban cigars have a dark Grey ash.
As for Cigarwise - serious smokers!
Nice guys once you get to know them.
magnezium (sp)
Most Cuban cigars have a dark Grey ash.
As for Cigarwise - serious smokers!
Nice guys once you get to know them.