Burn near the band?

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I have noticed something and wondered if anyone else had this happen. I usually leave the band on my cigar until I get close to it, during smoking. I have noticed that when the stick has a large band, some are a double bands, that when I reach this portion of the stick I can have a burn issue. Not uneven but hard to keep lit, it seems to me the band is trapping extra moisture under the large band and is the cause of the problem. Since I am yet to purchase beads I do keep my humi's around 68 to 70 because when I do that the RH is much more steady usually around 68 until I added some distilled and it may creep up a little.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
Anytime I have burn problems (which is rare now) it usually occurs in the first third. I do think the higher RH is the reason why. My RH is now at 62%-64%, 62 more often than not. Tom, I know you've read this time and time again, but you really should give the 65% beads a try. They are well worth the money and so much less hassle.


DL
 
They are on my list of must buys and it seems every time I end up buying more stix. Oh well, they burn well up until then band area and they it is an even burn just hard to keep lit. Which is why I thought to much moisture.
 
try removing the band before you light it up, give that area a chance to breath a bit before it starts to Burn.............. dont know if it will help just an idea . Enjoy, Vince
 
NJsmokey said:
Thanks Vince, sounds worth giving it a shot.
No problem My pleasure, hey thats what were all here for, an exchange of ideas !! Enjoy, Vince
 
With a good cigar, I'll take the band off before the fire ever gets close and try to smoke it as close as I can. With a dog stick, the band goes with the stick out in the flower bed so I can put it in the garbage later, because there was no chance I was going to smoke it anywhere close to the band. 'Dog stick' to me means ANY cigar, regardless of price, that has a tight draw, falls apart or just has no flavor. In my experience you will get a few of these in any box that costs less than $100, and maybe even some in that range and above. On the other hand, you can find $50 boxes that 9 out of 10 smoke great. To me, that is the quest - to find decent sticks for $2.50-$3.50. So far my favorite in this category and the most consistently 'good' is the 5 Vegas 'Gold' 5.5" x 55 box pressed. I just burnt my fingers with one not an hour ago. :D
 
I would be VERY carefull removing a band from a cold cigar, you stand a much greater chance of tearing the wrapper that way. Let it warm up a bit first, and then remove it if you feel it is causing a problem. Just my 1.85 cents of course.
 
It only happened a few times very close to each other with cigars that had a large band. I have not had it happen in awhile so I am not sure what the actual cause was. May have just been the weather. Oh well, I guess thats what makes this hobby interesting.
 
You might well be onto something with the band idea, now that you have brought it up, I am going to have to take not of it. The only thing I can add is that once you remove the band and are smoking, the RH should be constant in the whole cigar.
 
this is very intresting...ive noticed this 2, that the last 3rd of some gars can burn just in the center or just go out...maybe that band is trapping in moister??
never really thought of it as a possibility...def worth a shot
 
redbeard said:
this is very intresting...ive noticed this 2, that the last 3rd of some gars can burn just in the center or just go out...maybe that band is trapping in moister??
never really thought of it as a possibility...def worth a shot

No. You guys are lost in space here. The cigar begins to burn badly past the halfway point because of the internal moisture buildup from the water vapor released in combustion. I do not believe the band has any effect on the burning of the cigar until the burn line hits it.

On the subject of humidity in the humidor; my cigars dry out in the humidor with the calibrated hygrometers reading 75% to 80% - how in the world can you keep them at 65% without them getting crunchy?
 
Inland44 said:
On the subject of humidity in the humidor; my cigars dry out in the humidor with the calibrated hygrometers reading 75% to 80% - how in the world can you keep them at 65% without them getting crunchy?


Wow, I can't believe you don't get mold at 75-80%. I am also suprised that you don't get uneven burning and tunneling. But what do I know? I may be "lost in space". :wink:


DL
 
Inland44 said:
On the subject of humidity in the humidor; my cigars dry out in the humidor with the calibrated hygrometers reading 75% to 80% - how in the world can you keep them at 65% without them getting crunchy?

You sure they are calibrated? When did you last check them, I had some cigars get dry on me because my Hygros where out in the past. Now I pay attention to the hygros and how the sticks feel. Also I stay around 70 becasue I am yet to buy beads, can't stop buying sticks. If you are really having trouble start a thread and I am sure someone here will be able to help you out. I did it in the past and I have not had a problem in a long time now.