Yes and no on this one in my opinion. The aging process lends to a more stable cigar as the oils blend and meld and the tannons break down. It has been my experience with a more mild cigar that the aging process actually takes more time. Some mild cigars wont even continue to mature with age and in most cases if they do, the changes are very subtle requiring a very refined palate to detect them. IMHO
Yes and no on this one in my opinion. The aging process lends to a more stable cigar as the oils blend and meld and the tannons break down. It has been my experience with a more mild cigar that the aging process actually takes more time. Some mild cigars wont even continue to mature with age and in most cases if they do, the changes are very subtle requiring a very refined palate to detect them. IMHO
While very few things in this world are truly air tight, just think of being wrapped in a plastic suit all the time, or one of those blanket thingys that they throw around marathon runners after they finish a race. Do you know that if you keep one of those things on too long, bad effects can actually result? Your body would be choking on it's own vapors and oils. Sure, the blanket isn't completely air tight, but it's not like your body is going through normal circulation either. Don't forget, your skin is the largest organ in your body, and needs proper circulation.
The same with cellophane. That's why that yellow stuff builds up on the cellophane, with cigars that are stored for the long term inside the cello. There's no way that a cigar without cellophane on, laying in your humidor in all it's totally naked glory, receiving proper air exchange, laying around in the midst of all it's worldwide brothers and sisters, and a cigar wrapped in cello age the same way. A cigar that receives air exchange and that breathes, excreting it's nicotine and ammonia content, and a cigar that cannot, will not age the same. Leaving the cello on can assure you of a nearly brand new cigar, even years later. I've smoked cigars that guys like DocBarry and Vince had kept around since the Civil War in cellophane, and they were pretty "new" tasting.
It's up to whether or not you want to "age" them. If you just want to "store" them, then leave the cello on.
Also, Spider's point about aging mild cigars is absolutely correct, except some mild cigars do age well. One of the best parts of the wonderful world of cigar smoking is the realm of storage. We get a chance to discuss all the different aspects of it with each other, and it's a hobby where one interacts quite a bit with the subject. Paying attention to your cigars, knowing how the different brands age, what they taste like after three months, a year or more, all of that lends to the fun and fascination of cigars.
Many people handle their hobby a bit differently, some folks the same, but it's all about cigars, and all you have to do is get into your cigars, interact with them, and you'll know what's best for you over time.
The same with cellophane. That's why that yellow stuff builds up on the cellophane, with cigars that are stored for the long term inside the cello. There's no way that a cigar without cellophane on, laying in your humidor in all it's totally naked glory, receiving proper air exchange, laying around in the midst of all it's worldwide brothers and sisters, and a cigar wrapped in cello age the same way. A cigar that receives air exchange and that breathes, excreting it's nicotine and ammonia content, and a cigar that cannot, will not age the same. Leaving the cello on can assure you of a nearly brand new cigar, even years later. I've smoked cigars that guys like DocBarry and Vince had kept around since the Civil War in cellophane, and they were pretty "new" tasting.
It's up to whether or not you want to "age" them. If you just want to "store" them, then leave the cello on.
Also, Spider's point about aging mild cigars is absolutely correct, except some mild cigars do age well. One of the best parts of the wonderful world of cigar smoking is the realm of storage. We get a chance to discuss all the different aspects of it with each other, and it's a hobby where one interacts quite a bit with the subject. Paying attention to your cigars, knowing how the different brands age, what they taste like after three months, a year or more, all of that lends to the fun and fascination of cigars.
Many people handle their hobby a bit differently, some folks the same, but it's all about cigars, and all you have to do is get into your cigars, interact with them, and you'll know what's best for you over time.
Well, I've been convinced. I've taken the cellophane off of my cigars. It does make the humidor look a lot better. Now, I just hope nothing happens to them when I dig around looking for a certain cigar I'm in the mood for. There is one added benefit - a lot of my cigars are purchased at a cigar shop, so the cellophane wrappers have price tags on them. Without the price tags, I don't know how much they cost - and my wife won't see either. Ignorance is bliss! 8)
Just think of it this way. You'll be handling your cigars with so much care, you'll be spending a lot more time with them, and not damaging them at all. Just be real careful. And remember Vince, who once had 11,000 cigars, and used to give them EACH a QUARTER TURN once a day!!!
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umpkin: umpkin: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Vince'll have to get back to us on whether or not there's any exaggeration in what I said, but trust me, it was something like that. He's spent a LOT of time with his cigars. :mrgreen: :sm_angel: :sm_angel:
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umpkin: umpkin: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Vince'll have to get back to us on whether or not there's any exaggeration in what I said, but trust me, it was something like that. He's spent a LOT of time with his cigars. :mrgreen: :sm_angel: :sm_angel:
A cigar book? we don't need no stinkin cigar books....we have Bloofington. That was great. Thanks for the info. gary
Ohhhhhhh!!!! Duhhhhhh. I get it. YOU'RE gary!!! Oh no, embarrassed.
I mistook the period for a comma on the PM the other day. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh man. I'm going to finish that cigar and hide my head for a while. What a maroon I am.
Oh Wa, Ta Goo, Siam.
Oh Wa, Ta Goo, Siam.
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I mistook the period for a comma on the PM the other day. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh man. I'm going to finish that cigar and hide my head for a while. What a maroon I am.
Oh Wa, Ta Goo, Siam.
Oh Wa, Ta Goo, Siam.
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Sorry, I'm gary. Jesse is my old dogs name. I had to put him down 2 years ago in December. He was a great old dog. This is just my little tribute to him. So i can remember him every day. I know its a bit sappy, but I loved that dog.
jesse52 said:
Hey man, all my dogs have been family members, not property.
I keep their dog collars. The new dogs get the bowls, bed and assorted leftover goodies.
All the pets I've ever had, mostly cats, were considered family members. There's nothing like the feeling of having a live animal or more than one, waiting for you to get home. It is always a terribly sad day for me when a pet dies. I'm grateful to God for all of them.
why the heck would you quit cello and switch to violin? pfft
I'm a viola man myself.
Stickman, out of curiousity, have you ever heard of the Treasure Coast Youth Symphony?
I'm a viola man myself.
Stickman, out of curiousity, have you ever heard of the Treasure Coast Youth Symphony?
Now this may just be dumb. But whay not take tem out of the celo nad kep it, then if you want to take them or ship them you canjust slide it in. or even have some of those niftey cigar ziplock bags.
What about just opening them at the foot? That way they'd get more air flow, but can still be easily shipped, etc.
what i used to do is, since the cello is usually about an inch or so long at the foot, and is usually creased closed, i would cut that extra inch off so it just overhung the foot by maybe 1/8 inch, but it would be a wide opening that would stay open...
i have since ditched the cello just cause i like the looks of the humidor without the cello so much better and i keep the cellos stashed somewhere if i need them for travel and whatnot...
i have since ditched the cello just cause i like the looks of the humidor without the cello so much better and i keep the cellos stashed somewhere if i need them for travel and whatnot...
I cut the cello off tight to the end of the cigar. It keeps the wrapper protected, and if I want to take it out, it will easily slide right back in. This way, it can still age, and be protected.