I live in California. You know the place, sunny California? Yeah I'm a woose. Yeah 50* is freaking cold! Now.......It has been raining here for 32 days in a row. Been skipping the night, thank God. I do not live in Seattle because it rains too much up there. We have an average rainfall of 25 inches. We passed 40 inches yesterday and it's raining again today with a forcast of 2 more weeks of this. I am leaving for Hawaii in 3 weeks and I hear that it's been raining like crazy over there! My toes are wet, my bones are cold and my attitude is really getting, well, it's even starting to bother me! I know I should be happy because in other parts of the country/world there are droughts and it's worse than this. Back in '76 one of our big water supply reservoirs was a creek. BUT I'm tellin ya, I'm going plain crazy out here. Uh......yeah, so, I feel a little better now........... :shock:
Who'll Stop The Rain?? ( rant )
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My folks in Hawaii (Oahu) have had rain for about 40+ straight days now. Lots of flooding all over the island, especially the northern part. My parents told me that Kahala Shopping Mall was flooded, and the theater within it had an emergency evacuation during "Ice Age: Meltdown" due to collapsing walls from the floods. Waikiki beach has been shut down due to overflowing sewage and canals. etc etc. And this is just what my parents are observing.
My relatives in Kauai are on constant flood warnings (or was that watch) due to the overflowing/unstable dams/reseroirs.
My parents will be visiting us in "sunny" California next week. Unfortunately, it's raining here too.
My relatives in Kauai are on constant flood warnings (or was that watch) due to the overflowing/unstable dams/reseroirs.
My parents will be visiting us in "sunny" California next week. Unfortunately, it's raining here too.
In a couple of months the temperatures will be nipping at 100° and you'll wish it would rain. 
Dan
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Although it only drizzled down here in Temecula yesterday, it's much better than the rain I've been dealing with in San Francisco for over a month now. I left the city in a downpour and I'll most likely be returning to the same.
I was watching the news this morning and they showed some mud slides in Santa Cruz...I was smoking a cigar under one of those cliffs just 2 weeks ago!
This weather reminds me of my trip out here during El Niño back in '98. I remember driving by a little league park and seeing nothing but the very top of the batting cages :shock:
Bring on the heat 8)
I was watching the news this morning and they showed some mud slides in Santa Cruz...I was smoking a cigar under one of those cliffs just 2 weeks ago!
This weather reminds me of my trip out here during El Niño back in '98. I remember driving by a little league park and seeing nothing but the very top of the batting cages :shock:
Bring on the heat 8)
Doc-T said:
You from Hawaii? My wife is from Oahu. Mililani, to be exact.
We're going in May. Hopefully it clears up by then.
Bobberrific said:
That's definitely a scary fact. I remember seeing footage of a collapse in Antarctica a few years ago and it was eye opening.
Another hint at things to come is the increased frequency of snowfall at lower elevations in Southern California.
I'm not about go and buy sled dogs...but it makes you wonder.
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Mother Nature is pissed and she isn't going to take it much longer. My advise is to buy positions in canned foods and shot guns.
I remember back in 1975 when the junk science of that time predicted "Global Cooling". Yeah the world was going to cool and all the crops would die and we would starve to death. Yeah Yeah Yeah.......I believe in cyclical changes, NOT that we humans have the ability to change the climate. We think far too much of ourselves. :x
where the rain is coming from is other parts of the world, like here! We have had a forest fire warning for a while now.
I saw on the news this morning that it is still raining, don't forget your rain jacket.
I saw on the news this morning that it is still raining, don't forget your rain jacket.
Right on foodislife! It's called the egocentric fallacy: ascribing too much causality/power to oneself.
Yes we can show that the world's average temp is increasing. No, we have not shown that it is doing so more dramatically than it has in the past, without our industrial intervention.
Humans can alter the environment (ie mass extinctions of large mammals at the end of the pleiostocene), but so do other organisms. Early plant life multiplied so rapidly in the oceans that its wastes created an environment that was absolutely toxic to the original organisms. That waste? Oxygen.
We probably should keep an eye on the climate, so we're not caught totally unawares, but we ought to quit assuming that any slight change in the orbital angle of Io is caused by us.
Yes we can show that the world's average temp is increasing. No, we have not shown that it is doing so more dramatically than it has in the past, without our industrial intervention.
Humans can alter the environment (ie mass extinctions of large mammals at the end of the pleiostocene), but so do other organisms. Early plant life multiplied so rapidly in the oceans that its wastes created an environment that was absolutely toxic to the original organisms. That waste? Oxygen.
We probably should keep an eye on the climate, so we're not caught totally unawares, but we ought to quit assuming that any slight change in the orbital angle of Io is caused by us.
Doc-T said:
No, I met my wife out here. We go back every so often. We're going there in May actually.
Love the red dirt. It never comes out of my shoes!
Look at the anaerobic organisms left over from that era such as botulism, tetanus, or gangrene and you get an idea of how incompatible the ecosystems must have been. The blue green algae and cyanobacteria that created the oxygen must have been hearty stuff.soupwell said:
The global warming debate that has turned into chicken little hysteria is derived from some computer models that are flawed. One flaw is the assumption that industrial pollution could cause a sudden increase in temperatures. Mt. St. Helens dumped huge amounts of heat trapping gasses into the atmosphere, so did Mt. Pinatubo and every other volcano that has ever erupted. One estimate I read was that volcanic activity in one year (I forget which but I think it was the year Pinatubo erupted) put more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than all human activity since we first learned to make fire to light our cigars. Another problem with the computer model is the depreciation of the effect of the most common heat trapping gas in the atmosphere. Over 98% of the greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapor. Carbon dioxide, methane and other heat trapping gases hold a tiny percentage of heat compared to the gigatons of water vapor that enters and falls from the atmosphere every day. Another big problem with the computer model is its bias towards predicting warming in the future. If you enter the available climate data for the past forty years and run the program backwards it will predict that earth was in an iceage during the very recent past.
References:
http://www.heartland.org/archives/studies/ieguide.htm
http://www.junkscience.com/
http://www.globalwarming.org/resources.htm
Political columns often touching on global warming.
http://www.anxietycenter.com/
The very reason this planet is suitable for life as we know it is the huge heat capacity and therefore heat regualting properties of water. Good point DJL, It's sometimes easy to overlook the most obvious things.
I didn't know that bit about running the computer model backwards; that's hilarious. It seems like producing results that reflect current reality would be prerequisite to publishing predictions!
I didn't know that bit about running the computer model backwards; that's hilarious. It seems like producing results that reflect current reality would be prerequisite to publishing predictions!
Good post, djl4570.
The fact that water vapor is a major greenhouse gas is overlooked way too much. We are in a natural state of warming. Dr. Elwyn Taylor of Iowa State University has climate cycle information from the last 1000 or more years and the cycles are very clear. In fact 40 years ago they were predicting 2004-2007 to be major hurricane years. Looks like they were right.
On the bright side, the good thing about more CO2 in the atmosphere is that plants will grow better. That means tobacco will grow better and we will all have more and better cigars to smoke!
The fact that water vapor is a major greenhouse gas is overlooked way too much. We are in a natural state of warming. Dr. Elwyn Taylor of Iowa State University has climate cycle information from the last 1000 or more years and the cycles are very clear. In fact 40 years ago they were predicting 2004-2007 to be major hurricane years. Looks like they were right.
On the bright side, the good thing about more CO2 in the atmosphere is that plants will grow better. That means tobacco will grow better and we will all have more and better cigars to smoke!
A minor factoid is that commercial greenhouses where orchids and roses are grown for sale is the high CO2 concentration often added to the air. Not high enough to make people sick but high enough to stimulate plant growth.Carduus said:
I posted the bit below elsewhere in the forum but I'll repeat it here because it's relevant to the thread.
Scientists blame sun for global warming
On the down side, it's supposed to rain here in California today. Hopefully it will clear up so I can go to the range over the weekend.
