Seconds?

Well don't get too excited until you smoke them, Spider!!!!! Or attempt to!
 
Anyone ever try the Private Stock http://www.famous-smoke.com/cigars/search/sr.cfm/st/search?

They call them "ungraded" Davidoffs in the catalog, my local tobaccanist had some, and he called them seconds. Not sure if there's a difference.

Anyway, I bought a #11, and if these are seconds. . .damn. Very smooth, kinda mild, flavor. Interesting thing: I stuck a 1" or so ash out the window of my truck at 60 MPH, pulled it back in and the ash was still there. WOW.

I'll probably never afford more than singles from Davidoff, but these are inexpensive enough to buy a box or two.
 
Big Paintbrush said:
Don't forget to schedule a visit down here Kevin!

One of my client's wants me down there late next month - I will definitely let you know when that gets booked! I still haven't smoked Da Governor yet - he may be making the trip down with me.
 
Having visited some factories and spoken witha lot of cigar makers on this topic, I can definately shed some light here. A lot of the cigars out there that are labeled as seconds are not really seconds. They are actually cigars made as themselves (firsts) and are not throw outs, they are their own unique blend. Most makers do this becuase they dont want to canabolize their own cigars with lower priced lower margin items. However, they do usually use left over or lower grade tobacco from their existing lines but just reblend it. It is mainly the retailers who brand the cigars as seconds at that time. For example, Private Stock is really its own brand but it does use some scrap tobacco from Tabadom, but so does the M1 by Cusano. In this regaurd the M1 by Cusano is ijust as much a davidoff second as is the private stock. But really I dont think you can consider either cigar a second.

The only cigar maker I have come accross that truly sell seconds of a premium line is Rocky Patel and perdomo on occassion. If any other cigar makers makes a bad cigar that is not deemed a first they either 1. throw it away, or 2. take it a part and use the tobacco as a mixed filler in a less expensive cigar.
 
Thanks for clearing that up Macallan.

So the PS are simply made with stuff that doesn't make the grade for the $40 a piece Davidoffs -- I can live with that. Also means since they are a production item, they aren't so chancy as to whether or not I can find them.